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Sunday, July 14, 2013

Present shock ...

Present Shock and the Loss of History and Context

Recognize the title?  Charles is the brilliant mind behind it.  I liked it so much, I've borrowed it.  It perfectly sums up the experience of these times more succinctly than anything I've seen.  Read that line again, maybe again and again, there is a long and tedious, alarming and prescient freight train of human catastrophe endlessly passing before us as we sit at the crossroads while bells clang, lights change from green to yellow to red and whistles scream Danger, Danger!  Each boxcar crunchlocked to its predecessor, each more incongruous than dreamed possible to the landscape they pass through daily, nightly, every crusty bolt, every surface upon and in between the corrugated tin smashtagged in day glow obliterating ownership logotypes so that no rust remains visible, ensuring no one has reason to suspect the panorama passing before them is forever doomed to the elements.

One might think they'd lost their way, if they knew the way to begin with, which many do not.  I'm constantly running into people who have no idea where they are going.  It looks like they know their way, but if you ask them for directions, you get, to begin with, a quizzical look.  I'm gettin' very tired of that, aren't you?  Charles' "Loss of History" became a reality because the memories of our train watching travelers are sponging incessant variations of experience, pleasure and pain complete with artful twists, victor after victor indulging his mortal vision, including the perverse persuasions of centuries old scribes, co-authors and copywriters, that actual history, those massive subjects of World Civilization and Ancient Geological History, going back as far as the human imagination extends, exists only to adopt and rearrange.  

I find the daily compounding disasters taking place globally to be in perfect keeping with Kali Yuga.  We knew it was coming on and now its everywhere at once.  It is impossible to say with certainty how many of the daily disasters come about through technology fatigue, reliance on automated systems. We know that nothing lasts, nothing, and we see the world's infrastructure coming apart without serious management programs and funding allocated for upkeep.  We see our land itself heaving, sinking, shrinking, burning, sliding, frying and when you see it you ask why is this?  We see the enrichment of evil, the smarmy contracts let to those who deserve it least and still the train keeps on a rollin'.  We see everything, us, the Earth, all life under God under brutal attack and we very often find ourselves unable to do anything meaningful to abate the increasing damage.  When we can find nothing meaningful to do to heal this situation, its easy to fall back into complacency because there is no encouragement to be on the side of good and right.  What we must do is find our own encouragement and act on it.  A group isn't the answer.  Groups are brought down through all the common weaknesses inherent in gathering - from diverse allegiances to infiltration to unaffordable, impossible to implement solutions.  Not enough like minds agree on exactly which problem or issue to tackle and the reason behind this is the secrecy shrouding every platform that requires transparency, as if there are merely a handful of problems and all we need to do is agree which particular one in which to devote our energies.  Addressing them ALL is beyond our means and beyond our capabilities.  Even agreement on the magnitude and timelines of these problems is up for debate.  And there are worse problems ahead, just as Kali Yuga arrived, on schedule, so will the problems of the near future.  Soon enough we will witness rising seas pushing inland the great coastal cities as metropolitan populations are told they will have to pay for the stilts and cassons and berms and seawalls themselves - which is saying "Save Yourself"- and happens to be the exact formula we've seen played out time after time in every country on the planet since corruption/irresponsibility and evil became the NWO norm.   Due to the historically sideways manner of revealing important climate, food, economic truths such as employment and healthcare, there will be many who will interpret the information casually as far off in the distant future or people who must by circumstance refuse to pay.  Many will not survive. 

In a disaster, there is no room for debate. It is nothing short of cruel, evil, stubborn insistence on false ideals based on allegiances that overrides the possibility anything can be saved now.  This is another area where my patience is running thin, I'm sure yours is too.  At this juncture in Present Shock, to begin explaining what has happened and how it happened is ridiculous.  If one has not noticed by now that which is impossible to miss, one will never notice.  The die is cast, "things" will take their course and our best hope for survival is to stay out of the way. 

I don't blog as frequently anymore because the information is there for all to see and interpret.  Brevity is the short answer due to the nature of our precarious situation, the clash of civilizations, the mass undoing of global humanity, unilateral species genocide, the very breath of air itself, the seas, the water, and now the maturation of the dumbed down unable to decipher the difference between vicious violence and compassion, don't be surprised if you see much smaller posts soon.  The long answer is unknown.  It may come to a combination of the two, short then long, etc.  I won't back out, its something I do and will continue doing, like painting which has taken higher priority for weeks lately. 

On a happier subject, be sure to visit the Trout Clan's regeneration efforts.  From the devastating fire wiping out their once beautiful property, out of the ashes comes the TEEPEE.  Praises!  Crushall!  It is beautiful indeed to see disaster overcome by the unstoppable forces of goodness, love, truth, solid dedication and authentic partnership in action. 

What I was saying in the paragraphs above the Trout's heartening news, is in no way to be taken that I condone ignoring the circus.  We are an integral part of that show, like it or not, and there are things we can do.  We can counter evil, hatred, stupidity, carelessness, lies, conservative and liberal prejudices and allegiances, deliberate cruelty, revenge, greed, illusions, personal rejections, etc., by simply being the natural person we are in our core, for once and forever casting out the loudmouth representative-self blathering platitudes.  ALWAYS making the effort to see whatever there is to be seen through eyes of understanding and compassion.   Spiritual evolution, especially the continuing growth of our own, is our battle strategy, our Zen simplicity accurately aimed with all activity a union between body, mind and heart in sync so we may exponentially improve our response to all that comes, now and directly ahead, is and has always been the only way to manage survival.  It has undoubtedly taken all of us uncountable lifetimes to realize this fact and in knowing this we must also know it will take further uncountable lifetimes to re-right the ship, if ever.  We have no choice but to be okay with that and live wisely with love, otherwise the cycle of return, for uncountable members of our bredren (and perhaps even ourselves) will never end.

Post title © CHS 2013

68 comments:

bholanath said...

Hello

Just as I posted a comment on previous blog, I noticed you have this new one up - have yet to read.

Anyway, I will paste this here.

From my friend, Swami M, a true human being, asking that this be passed on:

How to pay for this life of the 5 Debts.

Scriptures say that every human being is born owing five important debts,and they must repay those karmic debts during their lifetime.

Debts paid by living a good and honest life, rituals and offerings,most important love.
Debt to Ancestors and teachers: paid by supporting them, having children of one's own and or passing along knowledge.
Debt to Guests: repaid by treating them as if they were gods visiting one's home.
Debt to All Humankind (manushyarun): Mutual co-operation and serving others can help to repay this debt to humankind- such as giving money, clothes, shelter and land, to poor people, giving food and water to hungry people and helping orphans-or any other with help that is appropriate.

The fifth debt to the cosmic elements and everything that arises out of them (bhutrun) means debt to Nature — a person is indebted to plants, trees, birds, animals and nature (called Bhuta Rin) — repaid by offering good will, food, water, or any other help that is appropriate.

Repaying these five debts, called pancha-maha-yajna yoga, is compulsory in life. By these five yajna the individual places them self in correct relations with ancestors, spirits, humanity, the organic creation, nature.

onelove, back soon,
bholanath

nina said...

Thank you Bhoji, that is just wonderful. I've been wondering for a long time why I am in this Godforsaken city and now I know the truth for when you see truth it is undeniable. I'm certain others wonder a similar thing such as "Why did I die and wake up in hell?"
gratitude
onelove

Dublinmick said...

Nina I am not big on organizations either. How does one organize and fix this mess? You can't, you can only try and fix yourself. We are all like a small dot in the matrix observing the big whole from our own perspective.

I have always pointed out, mother earth will fix it all in due time probably not on the schedule and time line many of us expect.

Vivek came up with some great observations I thought.

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/68-years-ago-today-pandoras-box-was-opened/

It has probably been years since Cathartes Aura stated, things will never be the same from here on out. Perhaps it is just as well considering what we have become. Or something like that. It always stuck with me and who can deny time wave zero?

Alan Jong said...

Bholanath,

There is not one soul on the entire Earth who is born indebted to nature or Karma, life is a Gift from God. There are issues with the Hindu philosophy, and the absence of all of the deities pertaining to that religion happens to be one of them. India is a country with great material inequality, and epidemic child exploitation, but in the eyes of God there is not a king upon the whole face of the Planet Earth, worth more than any of the Children who die every day of starvation or illness brought upon them by material inequality. As above is as below, in the natural phenomenon, and because the will of God sees all Human beings upon the Earth as equal, Mother Earth herself deals a murderous hand to mankind who has waged war against himself, by living outside of the nature of the will of God. The Planet is an abundant paradise in which all Human Beings who live upon it are by Birth Right entitled to a share of equity, equal to all other Human Beings, mankind has created a different structure of living through privatization. While the degrees of wealth and poverty continue in the world which mankind has brought upon the Earth, each one bears his/her cross, for the ending is always the same.
It was Christ who brought the covenant of God, I will explain the following verses from Matthew 22
36 Diviner, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Isa/Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.(the Will of God As Above is as Below, God is inseparable from his will, all the waters of creation and destruction in nature and the cosmos, the entire Universe move according to that will.)
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself (If God has always, and will always recognize all Human beings as equal, who shall oppose that will? It will not be Mother Earth it will not be the Sun, it will not be the stars at night, the Planets or the seas, Who Then?)
That is what Isa/ Jesus was speaking about. If God should right the wrongs of the financial systems, and economic impositions placed upon Humanity, it will be through the sacrifice of all those institutions, and those who serve them to the detriment of the rest of creation and Humanity. They can only redeem themselves by recognition of the equity the will of God Grants every Human Being on the Planet.
Be Well,
Elias

nina said...

Mick, thank you for alerting us to Vivek's new post. He is on fire these days, but that is not unusual. His insight re: growth vs change is stunning. We could almost say infinite growth actually has reality - after some number of us has declared there is no such thing. Vivek is right on that. But there is more, infinite "cycles" of growth, renewal and regeneration, I think, is more to the point. His whole treatise is worthy of seeing the bigger issues in a new manner. I really love it when someone says something that opens up whole new avenues.

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/68-years-ago-today-pandoras-box-was-opened/

***

Now then, I used to tell neil he mustn't put himself down to me and I say the same to you. Paint more dammit. When you denigrate my praise of your talent as "just being nice", you denigrate me.

nina said...

Alan, I've alerted Bholanath to your comment. What shall we call you now? Elias? My mind is blown, do you realize everyone commenting or mentioned, including yourself, has amazing talents in art and music. It may be that each of us has fashioned their own ways of expressing just what it is we are doing here which is a requirement for vesselship.
Have a look at Vivek's take ... link is in the previous comment. I'd be interested in your take.

Dublinmick said...

Nina
I have so many oil paintings stacked in the corner, if I put them on the wall there would be a revolution around here. My daughters also have them on their walls. For the present I am (painted out).

Elias
I couldn't help noticing your comment. Most of us around here have had these type conversations to the point we are fairly burned out with it. As for a discussion with Bho, there is not enough room in forums to put up what he knows about the various paths of religion.

There are no issues with the Hindu philosophy, the issues are a lack of understanding concerning the same by people in other countries who follow various paths. Hinduism simply means the search for truth, period. The many deities are those who have incarnated among the Hindu (Krishna) just as Jesus incarnated among the Palestinians, just as Tecumseh and many native American shamans did in the Americas.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/Tecumseh.html

The major difference is most religions worship the spirit that was manifested, (the Christos) native Americans the great white spirit and so on. They did not turn it into a personality cult which frankly was something Constantine the British born roman emperor did with Christianity. He called in his ministers, mostly Turks and formed a relgion to hold a dying roman empire together. He killed the Vedic priests in the vatican also as Vedanta was once world wide. It was brought to earth by the Nefilim, or Elohim, those whom from heaven came to earth. These clay tablets are still in the Berlin museum and are our oldest form of written word. There are Vedantic shamans still in the Siberia, China and frankly all over the east.

Constantine waged war on the nature Celtic and Nordic religions which were the progression of Vedanta, just as they did in South America under Cortez and Columbus. It is not the religion of love, it is the religion of the sword.

http://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/who-are-the-nefilim-where-did-they-go-will-they-return/

The Christianity of today is rather exlclusive, narrow and shallow. It is also not the original words of Jesus. Thomas is not recognized as the twin brother of Jesus and reincarnation has been deleted. The words of Jesus can be found here and are very much in tune with native Americans and Vedanta. Most Christians usually revert to what they were told in sunday school class or revert to bible verses.

http://www.thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm

I suppose that is why I have a blog, so I don't have to keep repeating myself. Most of us here are not going to keep repeating ourself so try and get things the first time around. In the end all will be known and all will receive as they have given. Nobody can "save" you but yourself.

http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/6Nations/6nations1.html#part1a

Anonymous said...

See everything as a dream...
When we sit quietly and meditate by watching our thoughts, rather than concentrating on our breath, we see that everything appears very solid and substantive, real and permanent. But when we look closely, we notice that, as vivid as our mind seems to make things, it really is not so. Nothing is solid and happening, not in the way we perceive it. Everything is, in fact, more illusion than a reality.

The essence of a lucid dream is recognizing that you are dreaming during the dream. The first step in this process is to begin looking at your normal waking reality as though it too is a dream. A basic principle of Taoism is that life is a dream of our own creation. The dream practitioner is someone who through sustained effort has learned to swim in the ocean of infinity without tiring or becoming scared. Someone who is consciously at home in the complete energy spectrum of the life force. Someone who is no longer fixed on the physical dimension as the sole reality worth exploring.

For the Taoists the ability to embrace the full spectrum of the life force is the most important task a human being can accomplish in this lifetime. It is said that `If one realizes the Way in the morning one can die at peace in the evening'.

bholanath said...

Well, as Vivek points out, it is a problem with language. What if we removed the word 'debt' and replaced it with something referring to 'gratitude', or 'dharmic', or 'the real work' (Snyder), or 'ways of offering beauty'...?
This is the problem (or one of them) with scriptures, all scriptures. The fixing of all linguistic terms, placing absolute limits on the evolving, awakening individual's experience with the evolving creation and one's relation to the 'creator'.
What was shared here was simply, yes, a 'scriptural' exhortation to live consciously, none of which I have a problem with.

boss-man, if you have 'issues' with Hinduism, I am not the person to be your sounding board. I have pretty much no use for religion or religionists, and you also obviously know nothing about me, nor the one who passed the quote onto me. You also sound like you presume to 'know' all about these subjects, have 'answers', and are some kind of religious 'authority'.
There can be no argument that the Earth is an abundant paradise, nor that equity is the truth (except that it extends to all creatures, not just humans). But we don't need, and have never needed, a 'god' or a 'jesus' or a 'krishna' or any such human fiction to explain these simple awarenesses to us.
My life involves PLAYING with the divine stories, while at the same time allowing all to explore the essential truths and metaphorical teachings as they are moved by their own imaginations and experiences, - not imposing literal constructed 'historical' prison walls in the fields of play.
I am weary of (and way past the point of tolerance) authoritarians using any kind of scripture, or even "jesus said", "buddha said", "god told me" type language to wield as weapons in speaking of sacred matters...and then telling me to 'have a nice day'.

om tat sat

Alan Jong said...

Bholanath,

We are in agreement then, language is corrupt. No other species on the Earth share the degree of freedom the consciousness of mankind has been blessed with. Life for the Human Being is a gift, one that is worthy of testing by the creator, and it is tested, of that I have no doubt.

If every Human Being was recognized of their right to live, and to share in the resources which Mother Nature provides, there would be no poverty, the wealth of those labeled poor is Their equity in the Earth. That is the will, and direction the creator is moving the Planet toward.
The case can be made for financial systems that reward innovation, genius, and productivity, but when the basic wealth entitled to each individual is not recognized, those systems are already corrupt.

Mother Nature, The Planet Earth is more intelligent than all Human beings on the Planet combined I don't underestimate her Power. That is why I state as Above So Below.

Nina,
It is mankind who has forsaken God, not the other way around, but I get your point..;)

Be Well,

Elias

Anonymous said...

“But if you do know what is taught by plants and weather, you are in on the gossip and can feel truly at home. The sum of a field's forces [become] what we call very loosely the 'spirit of the place.' To know the spirit of a place is to realize that you are a part of a part and that the whole is made or parts, each of which in a whole. You start with the part you are whole in.”
― Gary Snyder,

Anonymous said...

“Nature is not a place to visit. It is home.”

“Find your place on the planet. Dig in, and take responsibility from there.”
― Gary Snyder

Anonymous said...

Thanks Bho for both comments and all who post here. Thanks you Nina for your love and your tenacity and this wonderful post.

Scrap

Dublinmick said...

Anonymous 1:17 It would help if in the future you pick a handle, any handle so that if we continue this conversation I will have an idea where we left off.

I wish I was as advanced as you and understood the TAO perfectly. Yes I understand the lucid dream theory. Unfortunately however the dream is a nightmare for far too many animals and people on this prison planet of fallen souls. Perhaps I am just too sensitive to be enlightened. Recently I heard from an old friend her 25 year old son had to leave university, cancer, bone grafts, infections etc, new bone grafts. It seems to be the story in many places. I find all this shit pretty disturbing. It is also needless in many cases if you are able to relate to people what is causing it. It is not the will of the TAO or the creator.

I seem to be waylaid by pollution, dying and suffering people and animals, genocide, poisoned food and medicine, dying trees and rivers. I suppose we all have different jobs here and some like myself feel compelled to keep pointing some of this out and some are meant to embrace the TAO and rise above the madness. Perhaps I will find myself in better circumstances at a later date in my endless march through eternity.

I have been fortunate to run into a few people with types of consciousness that is astounding. Unfortunately I am not one of them, so I will have to just continue on at present pointing out that possibly we have a problem here on planet earth. I suppose I identify with Red Elk, he has indicated he has seen realms of heaven, it is beautiful, but he is not ready to go there now, he has a job to do here on this planet.

I have dear friends still working under the assumption that things are fairly normal to a certain degree anyway. I can sure as hell help them out with this one.

Question for Lucifer's boss. When you say "no other species on the earth share the degree of freedom the consciousness of mankind has been blessed with", how do you account for the fact that geese and ducks move in a certain direction simultaneously in flight with no visible or audible signal? Perhaps they are blessed with a consciousness far superior to that of man, (a connection to the creator if you will} that few men possess. Some dogs will instantly recognize some humans to be trusted and some to stand their ground against without a background check. No animals are smarter than man. They recognize their connection to nature, the same nature man is bent on destroying.

nina said...

Dubs, Anonymous is Scrap. He is doing what you used to do, post and forget a sign off. Beside that he's hip to Gary Snyder. (GS is still on my wishlist, but not for long...)

Alan Jong said...

estion for Lucifer's boss. When you say "no other species on the earth share the degree of freedom the consciousness of mankind has been blessed with", how do you account for the fact that geese and ducks move in a certain direction simultaneously in flight with no visible or audible signal?

Birds of flight, the building of these feathered creatures within their exposed womb/egg is generated through the magnetic field in which they will live during their lives. This is why Birds form inside of an egg, exposed to the elements as opposed to being mammalian. At the cellular level they are inseparable from the magnetic field of the Earth which has accorded to them consciousness and life, birds are one with the sky in flight. The Magnetic Field they are synchronized with is also responsible for their diversity, and ultimate purpose. It is the Planet itself, whose degree of freedom includes designing habitats and species who share various degrees of independence, sometimes the only purpose of a species is to express beauty. Planet Earth has different degrees of Freedom than Human Beings.

Birds are the common representation of the deep nature behind laws, a law is readily though of as a mere by-product of the relation of the factors present in the law. Their motion is the whole which distance and time alike presuppose, and in which alone they make sense. The Birds are one with the laws which organize their life, and there can be no laws except where there is a common deep nature behind them.

Be Well,
Elias

Alan Jong said...

Humans are born knowing that the Earth has not abandoned them, that feeble hearted Men whose soul is possessed of evil, and drunk with power of ambition, and greed has violated their Birth Right, that Man & Woman who is not distracted by the evil of the fee-ble hearted, is one with His Law which is Universal in its origin and reward. The pursuit of Justice, Dignity, and fair is the flight of Mankind back to His/Her Law, something His/Her Heart must always hold on too.
What We have now upon the Earth is Billions who know their truth, and are seeking their Birth Right, and since this is a Bedrock Law of the Universe, it is nothing less than a flight back towards that Will of God, the Earth is aware of this, and so is God. All those forms of control, including religion, all that bread and circus is as a mirrored maze haunted by it's own shadow, and Planet Earth is on the path of ascension.

Be Well,
Elias

bholanath said...

Lila Lila
Life is just a play
Those who say don't know
And those who know don't say

nina said...

Elias is on to something good. His comment is very positive. Ascension vs annihilation. I see it. One thing I find especially noteworthy is he just says what he sees without quoting anybody else.
We all come to conclusions - better stated as bodies of thought - from our own angle and experience.

In these times it is rare to get real. In this void of reality, most often the unreal has the upper hand. Even when we think we are completely honest with ourselves and others, in retrospect we find something else going on that we were unable to consider because we've burdened our thinking with unrecognized little shoulds and musts. Its a constant effort in internal vigilance to decipher nonsense from truth, but the effort is worth it IF truth is what we desire.

Dublinmick said...

My apologies to scrap, I sometimes forget what a pain in the arse google can be. I have found that problems can arise as a an older program ages, they want you to buy a new $1200 computer and more powerful browser, at least on apple.

Bho can always make me laugh. What about Bob Dylan (Zimmerman) the messiah? There are times when I need a good laugh these days also let me tell ya.


"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke, "There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate, So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

The angels have grown tired of the clever.....Kahlil Gibran

Freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem.

Constantine did not slice all of the good stuff out of the bible!

It is better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools....Ecclesiastes 17: 15

An answer is only important if you ask the right question.....Mencius

Saints must do what they do by a special grace, the rest of us heathen must wield the sword of justice.........Sir Lancelot

Most people are bothered by those passages of Scripture they do not understand, but the passages that bother me are those I do understand.  ~Mark Twain




In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination.  ~Mark Twain

On the sixth day God created man.  On the seventh day, man returned the favor.  ~Author Unknown

God tells Adam and Eve not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  If this was the only way they could understand the difference between good and evil, how could they have known that it was wrong to disobey God and eat the fruit?  ~Laurie Lynn


A converted cannibal is one who, on Friday, eats only fishermen.  ~Emily Lotney

People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them.  ~Dave Barry, "Things That It Took Me 50 Years to Learn"

nina said...

Heh, Dubs you've made your point well. I must have quoted Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, Arthur Silber and many more, more times than I can recall.
I like this one very much: Freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem.

Alan Jong said...

Nina,

Ascension for some, Annihilation for some, every government, corporation, religious institution, King or Queen, in this world will have to throw their crowns down in the open before the feet of the Sun, that they may choose life, for they are already the damned.

;) Elias

nina said...

Its worth asking how this royalty thing got a foothold in the first place. What were our ancestors thinking!

Dublinmick said...

Nina, it was brought down from heaven to earth by the Elohim/Nefilim/Annunaki, as they considered Anu the ruler of earth and "Lord" of the universe as well as ruler of Nibiru.

Just from readings of the Babylon clay tablets, it seems to indicate a situation occurred there where they rebelled and were into sacrifice, child abduction and Satanism, the usual I would say what we are seeing today. Several of his ancestors got together and decided to nuke the place. Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt etc.

One of the Nefilim had revolted and stole a saucer with nukes, (believed by some to be the angel Lucifer) and sought to control the earth. There was an ongoing war, which Sitchin in his translations and books calls "Wars Between Gods and Men."

Order was restored and the crystal was taken out of the pyramid by one called Ninurta as it was used in war and apparently utilized a "death ray."

Things continued again and the current royal heads call themselves the descendants of the Gods, the Merovingians. There have been many palace coups however along the way. Recall in France the man in the iron mask who was the truth king ended up in dungeon. Mary Queen of Scots was beheaded.

In Russia the Czars met the same fate in the Bolshevik revolution and were murdered. Before them Ivan the terrible rejected Rome as an impostor and declared himself still the representative of God on earth. Jews at the time in Russia had to tread carefully, anyone considered traitors were blown up on a keg of dynamte in the town square.

And so here we find ourselves today. Interestingly Putin who is sometimes called the new czar has instituted Russian orthodoxy once again as the official religion however others are allowed a free hand.

China carried this concept for many years until the last emperor which the Japanese subverted. I am sure you recall the temple of heaven where ancient Gods were said to roam, who threw lightning bolts from their hands ala/Thor. This is pretty much what the Ming Dynasty was all about at the time.

We had Kingship in India also, quite similar. Kingship is a two edged sword, it all boils down to "who is the king." There has never been a totally free country in the history of the world, people are just taught to believe that mob rule and crooked elections is freedom.

Probably in my opinion the Native Indian tribes had the closest thing to it. The elders had meetings and presented the consensus to the rest of them for discussion. Native Americans could not even go to war without the permission of their wives.

Dublinmick said...

The Elohim who were said to come from a very large planet with an eliptical orbit, were said to have a much longer lifespan that the earthlings they created. (see Methuselah 300 year nap) They began marrying the earthings. Stories of Ezekial being taken up to heaven in a saucer etc.

They noted the earthlings had a life span that seemed to even be decreasing and even when taken to Nibiru still did not have much of a life span, so intermarriage was discouraged. The tablets even point out that Elohim differed from the earthling also in that they had no foreskin.

It is highly probable that today, the Hebrews insist on circumcision in order to be more like the "Gods".

The tablets portray conversations among the Elohim emphasizing that in no way should the earthlings be taken to heaven and manage to have their genes mixed with the Nefilim as it would decrease their life span. Discussions also portray discussions as to whether or not we earthlings should be given the gene of clairvoyance and it was decided they were not ready for this.

You might recall the voyager rocket when approaching mars, a large shadow can be seen behind it and then it disappears. Sitchin's books displayed photos of this. So we are left to wonder if they are making sure nobody from our planet ends up in space. There seem to be some interplanetary rules against this. (Can you blame them?) Take a look around.

bholanath said...

A side-note, since the subject of circumcision was brought up by Dub, and last night I was again looking at the book "Conversations with Ogotemmeli".
The book is a run-down of the Dogon cosmology/history by an old blind griot of the highest stature in Mali from the 1940s.
He speaks of the first creation of humans by the 'nummo' who had both male and female nature. There was a breach of Law, the jackal was created, and circumcision was instituted to 'separate' the female part from the male and vice-versa. I know, it's all pretty sick shit, and I do also believe kingship and all the rest of the psycho crap came from off-planet 'gods'[NOT!], but I don't know anything for sure, and I'm not even sure the cunieform tablets aren't disinfo by ancient psychopaths.
Carry on, onelove

nina said...

Ahahahaha

Dublinmick said...

Bho Nina and everyone, check this out.

Mount Vesuvius erupted today. Cayce had mentioned when it goes and and in the near frame of time Pelee on Martinique goes then earth changes will be in full swing, 3 months approximately until Utah and Nevada are inundated.

http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/07/mt-vesuvius-has-awoken-2451660.html

The fulfillment of Edgar Cayce’s end time prophecy seems to be on track. Cayce’s end-time prophecy includes predictions of erupting volcanoes, earthquake swarms, and major earth changes.

What seems to be missing at present are “noticeable eruptions” at Mt. Vesuvius in Italy or Mt. Pelee in the Caribbean. According to Cayce, when either of them begin “noticeable eruptions,”we should expect major earthquakes along the southern coast of California within three months. He also predicted a pole shift following closely on the heels of volcanic eruptions by Mt. Vesuvius or Mt. Pelee.

Cayce foresaw a shift of the Earth’s poles around the millennium and described the concept of the shifting of the poles as a result of Earth’s crust moving independently from the core of the Earth. Cayce’s prophecy is tied to a prediction in The Bible made by Archangel Gabriel to the prophet Daniel, “These changes in the Earth will come to pass . . . and there begin the periods of readjustments.”
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I am a firm believer in those clay tablets and I will tell you why. Long ago some Mahatmas that I would trust with my life told me the tablets are pretty close with some minor adjustment and what is taught in the eastern temples.

When I read about 15 of the books it all started making sense to me. Of course I could be wrong also and the Mahatmas could be wrong (for the first time I have ever known them to be)

Of course what makes sense to me ... well you know :)

Dublinmick said...

But back to the Elohim/Nefilim

All Native Indian tribes in cultures Inca, Mayan, Sioux, Navajo, are in full agreement, they did not evolve from monkeys, they will tell you just about to a man they are the descendants of supernatural beings from the stars who came in flying ships, showed them how to grow corn etc. In fact Navajo is pure Sumerian. We are told that Jesus said Eli Eli Sabakthani on the cross meaning why have you forsaken me, but these same words in Sumerian mean it is finished.

This same same story in in the Popul Vuh, the clay tablets and in the Mahabharata. In fact the Mahabharata has a diagram of a flying ship in great detail and they also mention Ninurta, same Ninurta that is mentioned in the clay tablets. Same story in the Kolbrin Bible which is celtic, vedas, Atrahasis and so on.

Gary Zeitlin, who worked on the SETI program at Berkeley is pretty high on Sitchin. His only question was if the Elohim did not evolve on Nibiru, where did they come from?

Indian vimanas

http://www.crystalinks.com/indiavimanas.html

Dublinmick said...

My best guess on the term "so above as below" could be there are warring factions throughout the universe, some benevolent and some pretty nasty but may have agreed on some loose set of rules to avoid all out war. I realize some wish to simply refer to the Nefilim as lizards and clump them all together.

That is what Barbara Hand Clow seem to think also, she wrote War in Heaven Atlantis Bypass.

I am guessing the original Nefilim were fairly benevolent. There are various species here, Cromagnon, Denisovan, Neanderthal etc. Neanderthal seems to be actually from this planet and very adapted to it, more cunning and resourceful. They are ruling the roost right now and have declared themselves Merovingians, descendants of Jesus. They have taken over the idea of kingship.

Infinity is a pretty big place and I doubt seriously if man on earth is all there is, most likely the struggle in the universe extends way past this rock. I doubt we float off to paradise when we die here, but may well find it continues elsewhere.

Dublinmick said...

I don't know why I am so talkative today, maybe Vesuvius got my adrenalin pumping!

I am getting so old I am beginning to look at cremation epitaphs. I have seen some pretty funny ones lately.

And away we go
Jackie Gleason

Humphrey Bogart, "I should never have switched from scotch to Martini's

Voltaire, "This is no time to make new enemies."
John Maynard Keyes,

"That's All Folks!"
The Man of a Thousand Voices
Mel Blanc

Gone but not forgotten
Clyde Barrow (Bonnie and Clyde)

Love will tear us apart
Ian Curtis

I told you I was sick
Jeremiah Johnson

Alan Jong said...

"My best guess on the term "so above as below" could be there are warring factions throughout the universe, some benevolent and some pretty nasty but may have agreed on some loose set of rules to avoid all out war. I realize some wish to simply refer to the Nefilim as lizards and clump them all together."

Hallowed Be Thy Name, Sir Pent, Sir Pent, Sir Pent.

As Above So Below, The Will of the Creator IS. God Almighty, Loves, Gives, & Shares "Ad infinitum".

Life is a Gift, and in a world as corrupt, and polluted as this one has become by factions of the Human Race so is Death.

nina said...

Elias: As Above So Below

Hold everything... are you saying, Elias, that when this race is run, we're up for a repeat "above"? Without our Earthly envelopes of course? I've heard this phrase many times and it does not sit as sacrosanct with me because below is a very troubled, conflicted place.

This phase needs further clarification. It can't just be taken for granted.

nina said...

Dubs, do you know you underestimate yourself?

Dublinmick said...

Nina
"underestimate?" You know I have friends who are quite convinced I am a wind bag and never shut up.

In fact I have never met a woman yet that sooner or later didn't get tired of me and tell me I talk too much!

I am convinced on this planet, people just don't think big enough, their perspective has just been too pigeon holed.

nina said...

I think your consciousness is wide open. If it makes some people uncomfortable, its them, not you.

Anonymous said...

Indulging ignorance, creating ten evils,
We waste our resources, reap the world’s scorn.
Weapons, armies, plagues, and droughts much misery to be borne!
Famines and wars are more and more frequent at every turn.
The daily news is fearful, full of strange forebodings.
Earthquakes, tidal waves, devastating landslides:
What can we do while caught in this age and time?
This surely is the result of evil done in former lives.
Faced with such adversity, we can fall into worse confusion.
But poor and unfortunate, if we create a thought of goodness,
Such wholesome thoughts can help us enter a temple and bow to the Dharma King.
Repent and reform your offenses;
Then your blessings can grow.
Bow to a bright-eyed teacher, seek for certification.
End birth and death: see the mind, understand the nature.
Smashing through impermanence is what we mean by permanence.
The path within the path is found through strong cultivation.
The sages and worties bequeathed wise sayings and lucid exhortations.
Uphold the Tripitaka teachings with reverence.
Cleanse your heart; purge your inner workings.
Encourage people to guard what is proper.
Don’t think my words are idle.
Don’t fail to pay attention.
Great cultivators must see their own natures.
Quickly cultivate and be heroically vigorous.
Plant the proper causes of Bodhi;
Aim to be born in the nine lotus grades, to be certified by the Buddhas.

Alan Jong said...

Nina,

Life is continuous, there is a lot of confusion when it comes to the many different doctrines, and interpretations of ancient text.
If mankind lived closer to the nature of God, which as I described as, Giving, Sharing, and Loving, the life cycle of Human Beings on the Planet would reflect that in longevity, even that is a phenomenon of Law. Law is Nature as opposed to Rules.
Part of the Problem with our civilization, is that what We have been told are laws, are not genuine Laws, they are rules to a game known as Capitalism, all the politicians in Washington D.C they legislate rules for the game of capitalism. Law itself is a natural phenomenon with Universal implications.

Local Law enforcement, and all forms of government including Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the White House, along with all other Governments of the World, including the United Nations only legislate, observe, and operate under Rules of Capitalism. Unfortunately these organizations write, enforce, and legislate rules to the game of Capitalism, as oppose to the Laws of Nature which all are bound too regardless of rules. Rules which often are undermined by double standards to begin with, can never be Laws, and will always reveal themselves as a source of corruption, which is all they were to begin with.
People have been farmed by states, and conditioned to play in a game called capitalism.

Unfortunately for Humanity, the Earth is not a Banker, and neither is God Almighty.

Elias

Alan Jong said...

Bholanath,
was refering to this

vedādhyāya-svadhā-svāhā- baly-annādyair yathodayam
devarṣi-pitṛ-bhūtāni
mad-rūpāṇy anv-ahaḿ yajet

The five daily sacrifces.

It is demonstrating the nature of God "Ad infinitum", which as I've said is Giving, Loving, and Sharing, the only path to liberation / deliverance. How many are actually ready in our world?

bholanath said...

When people ask us what we do, I answer "we talk about silence a lot". (grin)

This morning I was havin a cig in the yard with my bro, and he said "I wanted to find out about enlightenment, so I googled it." (+grin)

Dublinmick said...

Bho I put enlightenment in a search engine and looked it up. It said even when you reach this plateau, you are still going to have to keep on chopping wood and carrying water. What a bummer.

Anonymous said...

Tomorrow
we are
bones and ash,
the roots of weeds
poking through
our skulls.

Today,
simple clothes,
empty mind,
full stomach,
alive, aware,
right here,
right now.

Drunk on music,
who needs wine?

Come on,
Sweetheart,
let’s go dancing
while we’ve
still got feet.

Anonymous said...

Standing naked in front of the mirror this morning was an enlightning experience. Thanks Bho for getting the fun started.

Scrap

Anonymous said...

god is acid

Ed Sanders

bholanath said...

well, the Buddha said "with enlightenment I gained nothing"....
yeah, bummer; but, Scrap, enlightening experiences are generally shocking ones.

nina said...

Bho, would you please provide an example, doesn't have to be your own, but your own would be especially appropriate, of a shocking enlightenment.

onelove

nina said...

Scrapsan, have you ever looked yourself in the eyes in the mirror for about 5 minutes and left your body?

ENLIGHTENING

OK, heh, has anyone ever stared at a porcelain black and white tile floor and watched the tiles become three dimensional?

ENLIGHTENING

Next, has anyone ever started to fall asleep and noticed you were already dreaming, but you were still awake? This leads me to think dreaming is lift off.

Terrance said...

We cannot live in these bodies without the dream.....
Staying awake for long periods of time leads to daydreaming and eventually to sleep and dreamtime......
Living in these bodies is not natural.....so we slip into our native state.....one must leave a hook to absorb the dream into earth time....waking in this human density shades quickly our out of body escapades!

onelove..........

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Alan Jong said...

“A man of words and not of deeds
Is like a garden full of weeds
And when the weeds begin to grow
It's like a garden full of snow
And when the snow begins to fall
It's like a bird upon the wall
And when the bird away does fly
It's like an eagle in the sky
And when the sky begins to roar
It's like a lion at the door
And when the door begins to crack
It's like a stick across your back
And when your back begins to smart
It's like a penknife in your heart
And when your heart begins to bleed You're dead, and dead, and dead indeed.”
― Percy B. Green

So much wisdom in this poem. I though I would share it. I've reached a certain point in my journey of truth where I've come face to face with the cosmic element in whatever this is, sharing Truth?

On some level it is also a deeply seeded double victimization of those already suffering from a corrupt system, and I don't honestly see anyone who is giving the news dressed up to apocalyptic tones, any solutions it's a sad state of affair. There was a recent headline about the richest 300 people having more than the bottom 3 billion people. That means to Me those bottom 3 billion, don't have the luxury to focus on anything, but their next meal, so to Me it's so ingenuous to blame them for their plight by calling them sheeple, and using that useless tone of demagoguery. The charade is over for Me, because reason has won the day in my heart. I desire to be part of the solution, not keep regurgitating the problems, and there is a fine line with what some people proclaim is truth, when it is not.

Good Luck Yall,
Elias


Anonymous said...

TAO Chapter 14

Look at it, it cannot be seen
It is called colorless
Listen to it, it cannot be heard
It is called noiseless
Reach for it, it cannot be held
It is called formless
These three cannot be completely unraveled
So they are combined into one

Above it, not bright
Below it, not dark
Continuing endlessly, cannot be named
It returns back into nothingness
Thus it is called the form of the formless
The image of the imageless
This is called enigmatic
Confront it, its front cannot be seen
Follow it, its back cannot be seen

Wield the Tao of the ancients
To manage the existence of today
One can know the ancient beginning
It is called the Tao Axiom

The moment someone says they are enlightened, he or she is creating a differentiation between the self, the state of enlightenment, and the words needed to formulate it. In other words, this person is certainly not enlightened, because anyone explaining the underlying oneness of the universe is not in fact completely one with it. It is formless and beyond sensory and intellectual process. Enlightenment who needs it,so relax and just go along with things understanding that there is alot you cannot change, yet always find things to nourish the inherent potency (internal essence) that is part of your cosmic being. Fulfill your destiny and be what you truely are and do what you do best without trying to change the yourself or the world. (Go with flow, unhindered, unnoticed, unnamed, no goals, no expectations)Traffic in your own sign

Scrap


neal said...

Maybe as above, so below is different flavor of cognition after being hit by lightning. Maybe Sufi stuff, after being picked up by a tornado. Maybe flatlining for twelve hours, and coming back, is some explanation of certain theories.

Maybe OK, at least nanites get purged, evaporate tall buildings, and airplanes, and nuclear facilites, that is some stuff to deal with.

Maybe just trading machine spin for the Thing Itself, not magic, maybe mutation,, just a price that is paid, not for most. That sneaks in through the genome, always hunted, transfered from the living touch of it, when commanded.

That would be some irony, lose the frame of reference when the metaphors and mentation become literally something to be told what to do with.

Maybe playing with fire is a nasty business, gods never tire of it, and let it get buried mostly all over, just to stay interested in the game. I do not make the damn rules, maybe not safe to change anything, there is Life everywhere, and prices to be paid.

Now that is not thinking about the business, that is the business. Maybe be careful what is asked for, everything is fine, just no frame of reference that does not bury changes for others, cognition is a business, exposure, and faith, there is the Thing Itself, just do not get to help, just pay.

bholanath said...

Scrap -
That was most excellently spoken. True dat. Giving thanks.

What else can we do but have fun with the whole subject, and this life?...At least some of the time, even better a part of every day.

I often begin dreaming before sleep, many times picking up where I left off the night before. What's up with that?

Light-headed these days, teaching, transcribing, recording gigs, preparing for immanent out-of-town gigs, lots of visitors, watching the corn get tall and the wild birds taking turns at the feeders.
Another one of those solar returns today - damn, they come around fast, and sure add up!

onelove all around

Alan Jong said...

TAO Chapter 14

Look at it, it cannot be seen
It is called colorless
Listen to it, it cannot be heard
It is called noiseless
Reach for it, it cannot be held
It is called formless
These three cannot be completely unraveled
So they are combined into one

Above it, not bright
Below it, not dark
Continuing endlessly, cannot be named
It returns back into nothingness
Thus it is called the form of the formless
The image of the imageless
This is called enigmatic
Confront it, its front cannot be seen
Follow it, its back cannot be seen

Wield the Tao of the ancients
To manage the existence of today
One can know the ancient beginning
It is called the Tao Axiom

When I read something like this, and I am sure this applies to everybody, it is so abstract that it lends itself to personalization, and interpreting. It is poetic abstraction, about abstraction, perhaps the variable of future can be applied to it to some degree, but past is already written. So in the end it is about nothing, and nothing can mean just that nothing.

nina said...

New artwork in the Gallery...

http://deepintoartlifewestgallery.blogspot.com/2013/07/soldiers-mountain.html

Dublinmick said...

Nina
What a nice painting up top, the desert scene. I can't paint with water color, it is much more difficult than using oil which is more forgiving. You can make a mistake with oil and then wipe it out. That is hard to do with water color.

nina said...

I make lots of mistakes Dubs and paint over them. If I worried over mistakes, I wouldn't be an artist. Everyone makes mistakes, its all part of how we get to where we want to be, artist or not.

In watercolor, wet the mistake with a clean brush and go over it with a dry bushy brush to pick up paint. Let the area dry and redo it. About once or twice a year I make so many mistakes in a work I take the whole piece into the bathtub and wash it down to pale tones, let it dry outdoors in the sun (fast way) and fill in the toned areas with what I originally wanted the work to say.

Anonymous said...

The love of power or the power of love. Which would you chose
John Michael Greer

nina said...

Only love. No power.

amarynth said...

How very lovely, your Soldier's Mountain, Nina! It tells of many stories.

onelove

nina said...

Thank you Amarynth. Soldier is very much a lovable horse, a sort of teddy bear in a horse outfit. And yes, there are many stories wrapped up in the work.

I'm happy you see that. It makes it worthwhile.

bholanath said...

amarynth said it...
thank you, Nina.

nina said...

You will remember the Presleys? The way they all live together is an example for Human Beings. I can only wonder what vibe drew Soldier like a magnet over that mountain.
onelove/respect

Anonymous said...


Passing by and hailing up everyone.

One Love, turey.

nina said...

It appears certain heinous disasters have been left out of the news:
http://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/chief-likhtsamisyu-says-no-oil-pipelines-on-wetsuweten-territory/

Anonymous said...

Now they are going to run a tar sands line over to Nova Scotia.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/08/02-0

nina said...

Dubs, when I read something like that, I get horrible images of innocent and thirsty animals/avian poisoned, losing habitat and food sources, multiple generations extincted.
WHERE are the thoughtful people who made bridges over Canadian highways for animals to cross over? The bridges were probably a trade off to allow pavement and bus tours to run through animal preservation lands. The project described in this article has NOTHING like that in mind. There will be horrific disasters like the former natural gas pipeline breaking down repeatedly since it was never made to carry tar sands. That's right, TAR. Thick, gooey, filthy, black tar.
This plan, published, is how disaster begins.

nina said...

New post up:
http://deepintoartlifewest.blogspot.com/2013/08/alien-patriots.html